It's Not NATO Expansion, It's Bush's Lack of a Russia Policy Posted by Max Bergmann

There is a lot of talk about what a mistake it was to support/offer NATO membership to Georgia. How this was naturally going to antagonize Russia and now how the idea of NATO enlargement is such a bad idea because it would naturally antagonize Russia. This to me represents a badly mistaken reading of the situation and grossly dismisses the amazing success NATO enlargement has been.

The fact is that NATO expansion was one of the most successful post-Cold War policies, as it helped anchor fledgling democracies in Eastern Europe to the west and enabled and facilitated EU expansion. Did Russia consistently view NATO expansion with trepidation and hostility? Yes. But measures were taken by the Clinton administration to assuage Russian fears. Namely, efforts were made to include Russia to a significant degree in NATO. But the important point was that NATO expansion was rooted in broader U.S. - Russia dialogue.

The problem with Bush's policy toward Georgia was not support for NATO expansion or its support for a democracy on Russia's borders. The problem was that we pursued this policy in a vacuum.

For the last 8 years the Bush administration has had no Russia policy and had no corresponding approach to address Russian concerns about democratic governance along its borders. Instead, the Bush administration only cared about two things 1. Maintaining the warm relationship between Bush and Putin at apparently any cost and 2. Expanding missile defense. Our support for the colored revolutions and NATO expansion was completely divorced from any coherent policy toward Russia.

In the meantime Russia has grown stronger over the last decade fueled by its vast energy resources and became more hostile toward democracy both within Russia, as well as along its borders. Instead, of engaging or confronting Russian hostility toward democracy and its neighbors (ie. its eviction of democratic civil society groups, its conducting of cyber attacks against Baltic EU members, its connections to poisonings, its manipulation of oil and gas pipelines against its neighbors, etc. etc.) the U.S. turned a blind eye, and Europe followed. Instead, the "big" issue of discussion between the U.S. and Russia was over a strategically useless missile defense system. We went to the mat on that but failed to mention all of the other issues.

There is a ton of blame on all sides of this conflict. But the strategically stupid thing on our part was not our support of Georgian democracy, but doing so in a vacuum.

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[Bob Narus]

Jeez, I was wondering how long it was going to take you mandarins to put up something remotely substantive about Georgia. From the tone of this, I'm guessing you're all in a defensive crouch right now.

Granted, the Clinton administration's Russia policy was only mildly incompetent compared to its successor regime, but it did open the door to at least some of what followed. A somewhat more Eurocentric alliance (with another name at least!) and a little less "indispensable nation" stuff would have helped.

But admittedly none of that even approaches missile defense for brain-dead foreign policy.

[Peace]

NATO enlargement was Clinton's biggest foreign policy blunder in the nineties. This new Cold War was basically started by the US when it turned away from its committment not to expand NATO after the inclusion of a unified Germany in 1990. This made it appear to the Russian people that Gorbachev's and later Yeltsin's concessions to the West were in vain. As a result the West lost all Russian help in resolving the Balkan crisis or stopping Iran from developing a nuclear weapon. Russia could been a good ally since it borders Afghanistan and would like to see the situation in that country resolved before it spreads to the former Soviet Republics in Central Asia. Instead the US has botched any chance of forming an alliance with Russia through its moronic policies in Eastern Europe and the former Soviet Union. As to NATO expansion, I believe that the only winners of that foolish idea has been the Boeing cooperation, who has sold F-16s to Poland.

[seth edenbaum]

"The fact is that NATO expansion was one of the most successful post-Cold War policies, as it helped anchor fledgling democracies in Eastern Europe to the west and enabled and facilitated EU expansion."

You're contradicting yourself. Naming it post cold war policy but describing it as continuing cold war policy. And you're ignoring all actions of the US and NATO that continue the Great Game with Russia as the adversary. And Israel? And Pakistan? The US in South America?

Trying to think of yourself as pure while others know you're not.

[Dan Kervick]

For the last 8 years the Bush administration has had no Russia policy and had no corresponding approach to address Russian concerns about democratic governance along its borders.

I've really grown to loathe these kinds of euphemisms, with their ingenuous regurgitation of the propaganda of hostile economic takeovers disguised as colorful political "revolutions". I don't think the Russians really give a shit whether the governments of neighboring states like Georgia are "democratic" in the phony-baloney American sense, or whether they are Communist or Fascist or Spartacist or Hellenist or Calvinist or Carolingian or what have you. What they care about is whether the assets located in these states, and the state rackets that manage them, are subsidiaries of Russia Inc. or are subsidiaries of Euromerica Inc. That's all our own government has really cared about too. "Democracy" is just a euphemism for "liberalization", which is itself just a euphemism for putting governments in the hands of a new group of economic patrons who are willing to act as our guys.

The Russians also care about whether those countries will be sites where they themselves can safely point guns away at potential enemies, or whether they will be sites where subscribers to the rival Washington protection racket will rent their space so that the guns of potential enemies can be pointed back at Russia, right on their doorstep.

As soon as the Soviet Union collapsed, Western opportunists moved in for the economic kill, sending in the Western-based carpetbaggers and backing the Russian oligarch scalawags in a crooked operation to buy up, hijack or steal what was left of the Soviet economy, sell much of it for parts, ship some of the proceeds overseas, and let our favorite gangsters pocket the rest - in deep, greedy private pockets far away from the Russian people and their actual needs. This was supposed to be some sort of intense uber-capitalist shock treatment that would "liberalize" Russia, and make it more "free". But it was really just the racket it appeared to be, and turned the country into an corrupt, ungoverned and economically decrepit mafia state.

If Bill Clinton was so big on reassuring the Russian people of benign American intentions, then why was it one of his last acts to pardon Mark Rich, a global petroleum gang-banger who was the virtual godfather of the Russian oligarchs, and who was so crooked he was even a top target of our own FBI?

The out-of-control Nato expansion movement wasn't just a bad idea because it needlessly "antagonized" Russia - although it did that. Russia was probably bound to be worried or antagonized one way or another. It was a bad idea because Nato, which is supposed to be a defensive military alliance organized around the primary aim of protecting the security of its members, became a sort of door prize thrown around carelessly as a perk for joining the Washington-Brussels economic order. This was done in such a way as to water-down Nato and weaken American security, all for the sake of short-term political and economic advantages, and for the profits of a few global-scale gangsters. Reckless commitments and half-commitments were made in ways that have little to do defending ourselves. Now we look like idiots.

We've now got the absurd situation of George Bush, of all people, speaking gravely about Russian "overreaction". Meanwhile Bush presides over one of the smoldering ruins of Iraq - one of the great overreactions in history.

[Peace]

Sorry, I made a mistake in my comment about the F-16, it is Lockheed Martin that makes them and not Boeing.

[gregorbkny]

Comments have moved from the author's "NATO enlargement might be a bad idea" - that is adding Georgia, Moldovia and Ukhraine - to opinions that it was a bad idea to bring former Warsaw Pact countries and the three former SSRs in the Baltics into NATO.

Bringing the Baltics into NATO was a positive move, one that has created a status quo where Russian "peacekeepers" in the S. Osetia and Abkhazia fashion are not possible or thinkable. Taking that off the table was a good thing.

[seth edenbaum]

"Bringing the Baltics into NATO was a positive move, one that has created a status quo where Russian "peacekeepers" in the S. Osetia and Abkhazia fashion are not possible or thinkable."

The US doesn't have peacekeepers it has "advisors"
Google american military in south america. And remember Iraq?. The link's to the International Crisis Group.

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This post is a lie.

[Bob Narus]

NATO expansion is turning out to be the Versailles of the Cold War.

[Jim Arkedis]

You're right Max -- it's a valid American perogative to want to gobble up the Eastern bloc countries, but we should have been offering Russia a carrot as well. Instead, we let the pot boil over.

We're doing a multi-part series on the conflict at All Our Might - come on by and check it out: www.allourmight.com

[Bob Narus]

Hmmm...I wonder if it bothers Max to have his views characterized as, "it's a valid American perogative to want to gobble up the Eastern bloc countries." Maybe not.

[Dan Kervick]

Jim Arkedis, you say:

As for its desire to integrate with the West, the invasion will surely increase Georgian calls for NATO membership. This leaves the alliance with a delicate choice–deny Georgian membership and implicitly allow Russia dictate NATO’s members, or accept Georgia and risk being drawn into unwanted future conflicts with Russia. Since Georgia supplied 2,000 troops to the Iraq (the third biggest force), its hand US and UK has been strengthened.

This seems like a very unrealistic attitude to me. The choice isn't delicate at all, since it is now clear that a vote for the inclusion of Georgia in NATO is effectively a vote for conflict with the Russians over disputes in their own neighborhood. I have trouble believing that there is any sizable constituency in the United States interested in engaging in these local spats among distant countries. So the decision is suddenly quite clear-cut. The United States has no vital defensive interest tied to the defense of Georgia.

Of course, I have no doubt that the Russia-Georgia-South Ossetia conflict will increase calls from Georgia for Georgian membership in Georgia. But those increased calls from Georgia will only be met with a decrease in the number of such calls from responsible people in the United States. Georgia's role in Iraq will have little effect, since most Americans and Brits now regard Iraq as a very large mistake, and are not emotionally invested in the coalition of the willing that brought us the Iraq conflict.

These recent events bring home the unreal and flamboyant character of all the loose talk in recent years about NATO expansion into Georgia and Ukraine among the fanatics for the permanent revolution of aggressive "democratic enlargement". We are now reminded that defensive alliances are very serious business indeed, and unless one perceives the defense of some particular foreign country as absolutely vital to one's own security, then one has no business entangling oneself with that country, and embroiling one's own security with that other country's security.

Absent a threat of the sort the Soviet Union once posed, or was at least perceived as posing, I can't believe Americans any longer have the slightest interest in extending a security perimeter all the way out to some of Russia's next-door neighbors like Georgia. To the extent that it is a matter for US concern at all, it is an international law and order matter, to be handled through international bodies. And by "international bodies", I don't mean a reconfigured NATO-centered alliance or concert of democracies dedicated to perpetual expansion ... oh, excuse me, I mean "enlargement".

That sucks for the Georgians, perhaps, some of whom might have been taken in by the loud and irresponsible talk among neoconservatives and "all our might" liberals, and come to believe on that basis in outlandish promises of magical American or Euroamerican guardian angels who would fly in to save them from the obligation to reach a modus vivendi with their powerful neighbor. Perhaps this will give the expansionist party some pause in the future, when it comes to leading people on and encouraging them to deposit faith in far-fetched schemes and tenders for unrealistic long-term commitments from foreign lovers.

Some lingering Cold War triumphalists from the Clinton era still want NATO to be, in effect, an offensive alliance, providing the military muscle for some vaguely conceived ideological-economic world system expansion, tendentiously conceptualized as a struggle for western "democracy" against various evil eastern despots. I have to believe most Americans, to the extent they have an opinion at all on the matter, aren't deeply interested in this project. And they don't see the conflicts between Russians, Europeans and Americans in such grandiose ideological terms. The predictable hysterical pleas from expansionists about falling dominos, appeasement and global ideological war aren't likely to be convincing in the current environment.

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