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May 29, 2007

Miss USA and Rising Anti-Americanism
Posted by Shadi Hamid

Some people may have been amused by the clip of Miss USA falling, and then getting booed, at the Miss Universe competition (in neighboring Mexico). I, however, was not. It was a striking image, and, more than that, a sad one: the whole incident was emblematic of America's fall from grace in the eyes of world, friends and enemies alike. (She was booed again while responding to a question from one of the judges). If Miss Chile or Miss Taiwan had slipped and fell, the audience reaction would have probably been sympathetic. But this was Miss USA, a symbol, whether she wanted to be or not, of something which has gone quite wrong as of late.

Since 9/11, I've lived at various points in Egypt, Jordan, and England, and, in each, I have never apologized for being an American, nor should anyone else. But that doesn't change the fact that, more and more, even the simple act of saying you're an American can and does provoke a reaction, often negative. Of course, Republicans wouldn't know much about this since they are loathe to venture abroad in foreign lands with those weird, foreign people, many of whom presumably want to kill us.

May 29, 2007 at 12:51 PM |

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What abject nonsense...! Those Mexicans were not booing Miss U.S.A. because of recent American foreign policy; they were booing her because of American history vis-a-vis Mexico, and current American domestic policy: Mexicans harbor a deep-seated hatred of the United States and Americans (especially European-Americans, or "gringos," as they so endearingly refer to us); and yet they now want a totally open border with the United States, with Mexicans in America being entitled to all of the rights and benefits of American citizenship, including education, health care and (other) welfare.

The reason that so much of the rest of the world hates the United States is utterly irrelevant down in Mexico: It is drowning in its own domestic oil production, and it could not care less if the Middle East blew itself up...! In fact, Mexico would make out like banditos if the oil-producing countries of the Middle East did get blown up and have their vast and dominant oil-supply systems go permanently off-line!

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J.A.P.

5/29/7 @ 2:57 p.m. E.D.T.

Posted by: Jake Prufrock | May 29, 2007 at 02:58 PM

Actually, I remember reading once that there were more Republicans living abroad than Democrats. These guys are just pissed we won't let them sneak into the country anymore.

Posted by: Rotten | May 29, 2007 at 03:30 PM

Illegal immigration is not a victim less crime.

We have immigrants unable to obtain basic services. Increased poverty. Overcrowded homes. Strained schools. Additional infrastructure needs (roads, firehouses, schools).

We're unfair to legal immigrants waiting. Unfair to companies that abide by the law and hire legal workers. Unfair to the children of illegals who may be deported. Taxes aren't collected.

It's one mess, getting bigger.

Or we can let everyone who wants to come over into the country - no border, no control. That's the other solution.

So either everyone comes over - and I'd say 50-200 million would take the offer. Or we manage it properly so everyone benefits. There is no in between. We are in the in between right now.

Illegal immigration hurts everyone. To be fair to everyone, illegal immigration must be stopped. Borders enforced. Legal hiring enforced. Then, we have a system that allows people to come into this country - legally. If American's need these workers, then it must be done through legal and controlled means.

Illegal immigration hurts everyone. The people who use the excuse - "I want to better our lives" - don't seem to understand that the excuse can be used for every action from murder to theft.

Posted by: Cire Gastav | May 29, 2007 at 04:10 PM

MALDEF is funded by the Mexican government so that Mexico can continue to receive their life blood of remittances from USA based illegals.

Read MALDEF's press releases with statements on why they are filing lawsuits. The reasons are meaningless, such as:

"We don't want to put landlords in the position of being immigration officers".

It's part of the job of running a business (renting out a room)to follow the laws. They have to follow the fire codes - such as a boarding room must of an exit window. Does that put them in the position of being "Fire Marshals".

Mom and Pop stores have to ID someone before selling them a pack of cigarettes. Does that put them in the position of being "Alcohol and Tobacco Agents".

It's just ridiculous and they use many other meaningless excuses. MALDEF seems so out of tune with America, that I began to wonder who they were trying to help? It's not America.

Posted by: Mexico Controlling Our Country | May 29, 2007 at 04:12 PM

In that last remark about Republicans not traveling abroad...to which Republicans are you referring, the leadership or the party base? Does that include the religious right who travel disproportionally to Africa on missions trips? Is the Republican party a group of rich, white, passportless Americans so preoccupied with big business interests at home that they never leave the boundries of the US? Or is it a group of ignorant blue-collar workers too poor, uneducated, or terrified by the brown people 'over there' that comprises the Republican party base?

Posted by: Matthew | May 29, 2007 at 06:01 PM

Don't be absurd! Nobody was upset with Miss USA because of foreign policy, etc. They were booing the judges because they have always favored USA in this competition. And how possible somebody who falls like Miss USA did can be in the Top 5? Please! Now, every girl should go and fall to see if they can make it into the Top 5.

Posted by: Carlos Rodríguez | May 29, 2007 at 06:09 PM

Americans/Gringos are the most devilish imperialists in the history of all mankind. When the evil anglo people of britain where kicked out of all of the empires they plundered, stole, and genocided in asia, africa, the americas, they handed their vile mantle to the USA or should I say, the US of KKK.

the imperialist nation of US of KKK built on the bodies of millions of dead native and indigenous peoples of the Americas, and over the backs of enslaved african american comrades, and brown hispanic and asian laborers, built an empire base upon white privilege and white supremacy.

but the days are numbered of white privilege and white imperialism. This is time for the rapidly expanding hispanic, black, asian, and native american population to combine our strengths and force the imperialists racist white Americans to learn to treat others, especially those of people of color with respect.

also by a fact, white americans have little population growth, in fact negative growth, so pretty soon, brown mestizo and indigenous hispanics from USA and all of latin america, along with africans from africa and african americans, and asians from asia and asian americans and pacific islanders from the pacific islands and pacific islanders of american blood and native americans from north america will outnumber whites by a factor of 10 is to, from the present non-white to white ratio of 6 is to 1 in the world.

so time, demographics, history, and economics+trade and industry (with the rise of china, india, asian, african and latin american tiger economies) are against white america, europe, and australia.

So my advice, start learning spanish or chinese (mandarin) and japanese.

oh by the way, viva hugo chavez, evo morales, rafael correa, and daniel ortega.

viva la revolucion!!! viva cuba!!! viva fidel!!!

western civilization and capitalism are inherently racist, grnocidal, and teaches false free trade and double standard capitalism.

westerners killed or caused the death of 100 million native americans to steal their lands, enslavved tens of millions of africans and colonized africa, asia, the americas, australasia.

western civilization, western imperialism and colonialism and capitalism and the plunder of the americas and the massacres of indigenous peoples in the americas and australia, and colonialism of asia and africa and the IMF and world bank policies and imperialist gringo policies and support of right wing white coup leaders in latin america, makes the nazi germans look like harmless little babies when compared to the gringos, europeans, and whites.

so, western civilization and western imperialism and capitalism are inherently racist and genocidal and exploitive.

the solution is socialism, communism chinese, cuban and venezuelan style to make the world a better place.

capitalism and western imperialism is truly evil!! Viva socialism and viva the non-white peoples of the world (black, brown, red, and yellow) and their struggle against white racism, genocide, imperialism, plunder of mother earth.

we need more heroes like comrade robert mugabe, malcolm X, hugo chavez, Che guavera, mao tse-tung, evo morales, cesar chavez, tecumseh, geronimo, rather than some racist white right wing club.

capitalism === most evilest invention of the white man to enslave non-white peoples, their lands, and resources and engender the creation of a modern day feudal system (where the feudal lords are not only the capitalists, but they are also overwhelming of exclusively white ancestry, with a token sprinkling of some non-white persons, who have inferiority complex and looks up to his white massaaaahhhhhs).

down with capitalism and western imperialism and western colonialism and genocide of non-white peoples!!! It is time to end white racial privilege, white imperialism, white hegemony and white power!!!

Posted by: La RAZA Hispanic | May 29, 2007 at 06:17 PM

The days US economic and political hegemony are numbered.

The GRINGO economy will soon be consumed and overwhelmed by the greatness of emerging economies like those of China, India, Brazil, and other Asian, African, and Latin American nations.

Look at the heavily indebted US or gringo economy! What do the gringos (aka - americans) produce? Nothing - Nada. Apart from the production of weapons of mass destruction, like nukes, warships, guns, pollution, and PORN what else is "MADE IN USA"?

Nothing! The crazy, imperialist, and racist americans can’t even defeat the Iraqis, where a few Iraqi warriors are making the gringos spend 100 billion dollars a year and still no sign of victory. It is like Vietnam all over again. The world’s most trained and expensive army can’t even win against Iraqi teenagers armed only with AK-47.

Everything gringos purchase in stores are made/manufactured in elsewhere, whether they are made in china, india, mexico or some other non-white nations.

Moreover, heroes like Hugo Chavez, Rafael Correa, Evo Morales, Daniel Ortega, Fidel Castro are giving gringo’s whores (aka - the servile oligarchy in Venezuela, Ecuador, Bolivia, Nicaragua, and Cuba) the proper spanking they deserve.

Moreover, the non-white black, indigenous, hispanic, and asian people will take over the gringos land in north america and rule over those racists who want to disrespect and humiliate non-white peoples the world over, including in US of KKK.

Viva la revolucion!

On top of that, the gringos are going to be so much in debt in the trillions of dineros with the creditors emerging economies like China, Japan, etc. that pretty soon, they won't be able to do anything without the permission of the creditor nations in asia, africa, and latin america.

Every nation now is showing their middle finger to the IMF and world bank, which screwed them over during the heyday of imperialist neo-liberalism, and these nations are now turning to china and other non-aligned nation for aid, assistance, funds, and resources.

the american baby killers in iraq, vietnam, latin america, and north america (I refer to the genocide of native americans and the oppression of african americans and humiliation of latinos and chinese settlers) should pay more attention to their own economy and internal politics and issues, then butting into latin american nations, asian, middle-eastern, african, and other developing nation.

Hugo Chavez is a modern day simon bolivar, whereas the racist imperialist, genocidal, and racist gringos are the modern day NAZIS and Storm Troopers!

Posted by: La RAZA Hispanic | May 29, 2007 at 06:35 PM

Turn on to a Spanish news station, listen and then say it has nothing to do with immigration reforms. If you want you can come over and watch conmigo.

Posted by: Rene | May 29, 2007 at 07:10 PM

Can anyone read some of these rants in the comments section and still be confused over who the true racists are? Look at who their heros are - murderous thugs that siezed power by the sword, and caused the deaths of millions. Hey guys, Communism is responsible for more deaths than any ideology in the history of the world. 100 million and counting. Your side lost, move on.

The Mexicans have a long history of disrespecting visiting Americans during contests, sporting events, even vactions unless they are getting their money. Sporting events are one thing, but all the juvenile behavior at an event like this is intolerable. Much of their uncivilized behavior would be considered an international diplomatic incident if it occurred in a 1st world country. They get a pass though, because deep down, we all know that they simply don't know any better. We don't expect much from them.

Posted by: heheh | May 29, 2007 at 07:16 PM

It makes no sense to me why anyone would boo Miss USA if those exact same people are the ones coming into our country and causing probelms that could be elimanted if they would just stay where they are. Also the judges don't favor any of the contestants in a pageant. Just because she fell and still got in the top 5 dosent imply that at all. It just means she did great in everything else and had very good scores. She got up and still did what she was suppose to do. She smiled and didnt even show that it bothered her, I do pageants and I have seen that before. So before you make comments about how people show favortism, make sure you acutally have a clue on what your talking about.

Posted by: Jessica | May 29, 2007 at 07:37 PM

Will someone please explain to me the difference between an exported job, and am imported worker?

Posted by: Dean | May 29, 2007 at 08:08 PM


All of us (Americans) are legal immigrants, unless we come directly from the American Indian.

The law should always be enforced and obeyed by its citizens in ALL countries where one lives. Otherwise one will live in chaos, with a low quality of life. It is unfair to the millions that are waiting to come to this country in a "legal" way. Mexicans are not the only people waiting/trying to get into U.S.A. We have laws and timelines to protect the already tax-paying citizens here legally. In the year 2017 we will have to spend 2.5 TRILLION dollars to maintain our Social Security system and welfare. That is when the baby boomers hit their social security ages -- they have been paying into the system for over 44 years. But, there is not enough money to do this. To have that 2.5 trillion dollars (there is no money tree) people need to pay into the system over a long period of time. Therefore, with too large an influx of immigrants, we will all be without this safety net. Instead, it is logical, if we have the legal number of people to come in, over the allotted time frame, then the economy could handle the load. Laws are not made to be mean, but to help keep order. This is a "criminal issue" and a "burden issue" for our country. One that will hurt the tax paying/law abiding legal citizens if the law is not properly upheld.
In response to one of the comments made about the pageant. Yes, Miss Mexico is absolutly beautiful. The judges see the contestants more then we do. Many times, I wonder how one girl wins over another. But since the judges spend more time with them and we see them for only a few minutes on TV, I can only assume they know which one is the best one, for the job.
Thanks,
Sharon

Posted by: Sharon | May 30, 2007 at 12:26 AM

(correction) To make above statement more clear. In the year 2017 the cost of 12 million immigrants plus and the baby boomers retirement needs, will be 2.5 Trillion dollars. I hope that is more clear. (Truly a burden we cannot afford) See above. Thanks

Posted by: Sharon | May 30, 2007 at 12:40 AM

Score this one:

One huge kudo for the class that Miss USA displayed under fire.

One huge embarrasment for the country of Mexico, a host who displayed all of the hospitality and emotional maturity of a pack of misbehaving junior high students.

Posted by: Daniel | May 30, 2007 at 01:28 AM

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I am so sick of that ludicrous claim that "we are all immigrants!" By that inane 'reasoning', the Amerindians are all immigrants too, since most of their own ancestors lived their entire lives in either Asia or Africa. You could as easily claim that we are all African Americans, if you wish to be perverse; but, the likelihood of the monogenesis (i.e., Out-of-Africa) hypothesis being correct notwithstanding, that would not mean that we Americans today are all of Negroid extraction.

I was born in the United States to parents who both also were born in the United States. My ancestors began arriving here in the 1630s; and, as far as I know, none of them arrived here illegally-- which is far more than the vast majority of Mexican Americans and Mexican nationals living in the United States these days may say with a straight face! I, for one, am NOT an immigrant....

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J.A.P.

5/30/7 @ 1:40 a.m. E.D.T.

Posted by: Jake Prufrock | May 30, 2007 at 01:41 AM

For those who think Miss USA was booed because the US won't let more Mexicans sneak into their territory: People who follow the Miss Universe pageant are middle class and above, which means they are not necessarily interested in migrating to the US. Miss USA was booed because of she represents the USA, period.

Posted by: Mexican | May 30, 2007 at 02:09 PM

Etymology: Middle English, from Old English lagu, of Scandinavian origin; akin to Old Norse log law; akin to Old English licgan to lie -- more at LIE
1 a (1) : a binding custom or practice of a community : a rule of conduct or action prescribed or formally recognized as binding or enforced by a controlling authority (2) : the whole body of such customs, practices, or rules.
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Any illegal with a sign saying they are not illegal and that whites are here illegaly are completely ignoring the fact they are invading a community of people and refusing to obey that community's laws. Which is fine, I guess, but I am pretty sure when the Huns invaded europe they ignored any laws they didn't like,too. It really all about who's side your On. It's relative. To be honest the illegals should carry signs that say something akin to this "We do not abide by your laws.. We have our own laws. We do not reognize your claim to this land.".

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Posted by: sdfsd | June 05, 2007 at 10:18 PM

Native Americans are not immigrants. As a Pocomam Mayan tribes man, I am inclined to voice my opinion. In our written records,as like the Sumerian account on creation; we have always been here. We are not related to Monkeys, Asians, Africans, or the Lost Ten Tribes of Israel.

I also, disagree with Hispanics, Latinos, The cosmic race, the Afrocentric, and Eurocentric individuals who think that Democracy is of European or Greek influence, in fact Democracy, Socialism, Lenilism, Communism, Stalinism, Maoism and Nationalism were influenced primarily by the Six Leuague of the Iroquoi. The Magna Carta of the Glorious revolution, The Netherland Confederacy and other European form of Democracy were coercive.

The Hispanic community and Latin Americans should realize that Communism should not be considered, for it is the corrupt version of Democracy to which the Zapatista movement, Evo Morales and the Pan-American Indian movement is about.

Hispanics in Latin America should not relocate, but rise against their autocratic governments. It is these few Individuals and the elite members of society that constitute the problem. However, it is up to the people to make the changes. Educate yourself. Do not depend on nobody.

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