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March 10, 2006

Rogue Identities
Posted by Michael Signer

A very interesting post by John Ikenberry is up at TPMCafe about two books on identity, and why people seem so willing to create chaos, and kill themselves, for the sake of claims that (to the rest of us) subvert the very reasonable goal of a calm and peaceful world order.  The two books are Cosmopolitanism by Kwame Anthony Appiah of Princeton, and Identity and Violence by Amartya Sen.

Ikenberry writes:

So Appiah and Sen are worrying about the same danger – the solitarist belittling of human identity. They have a similar vision of a proper functioning and enlightened human society. It is a world were people are complexly integrated into various realms of political and social life. Overlapping and multiple identities reinforce restraint and toleration....

It seems to me that what these two intellectuals are searching for is really some sort of perfected global version of Western liberal society. After all, Europe and the West has been here before, starting perhaps with the religious wars of the early modern era. Western societies entered the modern democratic age when they succeeded in pushing ethnic and religious identities down into civil society. They semi-privatized these identities and created different layers and venues for the expression of social, political, and religious identities and affiliations.

To me, the crowning irony of the advanced capitalist, globalizing world is that local navel-gazing fractures become increasingly more important because they pose a threat to the very self-evidentness of the new world order -- and I wonder whether "identity" can explain it all.  The problem with those who attack the modern world is something like the modern/primeval distinction that was being floated a lot to explain Al Qaeda's actions on 9/11, but is something deeper, more primordial, and more intractable -- a weave of geography, history, ethnicity, nation, language, and cultural sense of embattlement. 

Some sectors of the world have a deep, blood-line urge to retreat and consolidate -- to become "rogues."  Iran has had this tendency since well before the White Revolution, and we see it resurging today.  North Korea has essentially decided to reject the modern world.  Whereas India seeks to become as cosmopolitan and integrationist as it can.

Why?  Why do certain countries (or sectors) decide to reject the world, whereas others join it?  No deep answers, only questions -- curious what those of you who have read either or both of these books think... or if, like me, you've read neither what you think anyway...

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...i think the core answer lies in the way DNA expresses itself, as well as the fact that said expression is continually further tuned by a physical migration toward "like likes like": humanity is a bunch of inbred tribes.

couple that with [as you put it, Michael:
"...something deeper, more primordial, and more intractable -- a weave of geography, history, ethnicity, nation, language, and cultural sense of embattlement"] the ineffableness of life, and, as Popeye said: "IyamwotIyam. Toot toot!"


Indians grow up in a world defined by multiple religions and languages. India does not "seek" to become cosmopolitan. It is already there.

To a moderately aware Indian the rest of the world is just more India.

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